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Hard Eight Craps Payouts Here we explore the specifics of craps strategy, dice setting, the types of craps bets and betting systems, and the theoretical probability of winning. We review the probability of certain dice outcomes, and suggest the best (and worst) bets depending on your goals for the game. With the sunflowers, hard ten facing up, and hard eight facing the shooter, I can obtain vital information from my come out roll. Once I have tossed the dice, astute players can also gather information about what my dice are doing without me having to verbally share whether my dice are rotating on axis, double pitching or if one die is off axis.

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You may have heard of the 'hard way' craps bet at one time or another if you played the game. It is sometimes known as betting on pairs or doubles. Basically you are betting on both dice to show the same numbers, such as: 22, 33, 44, and 55. These would be known as Hard 4, Hard 6, Hard 8 and Hard 10. There is really only one combination out of the 36 possible dice combinations that will result in a hard throw, which is pretty hard to do. In fact, that is why they call it a hard way because it is harder to do than the easy way, which is getting an 8 using other combinations such as 2 and 6 for example.

The odds of actually throwing a double or pair is 1 in 36. Since the hard way bet is a multi-roll wager, a player can keep rolling the dice until either their number comes up or if a seven is thrown. If the shooter rolls a seven, then you lose the bet automatically. Theoretically, a shooter can keep rolling the dice all night until either your pair comes up or the seven. The actual odds of winning this bet are 8:1 for the hard way 4 or 10, and 10:1 for the hard way 6 or 8. The payouts are 7:1 for the 4 and 10, and 9:1 for the 6 or 8. Finally, the house edge is 11.11% for the 4 and 10, and 9.09% for the 6 and 8.

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I tried to show these bets in the screenshot below of the craps table. Basically I put four stacks of chips on each of the hard way bets so you can see where this is located on the table. It happens to be in the proposition betting area at the center of the table. One thing to note here is the house advantage is still pretty big but it depends on the rules of the casino. Some casinos pay out true odds (zero house edge!) for the hard way bets including the one in the picture below.

Rather than being paid $7 for every $1 bet, you get paid $8 if you win hard way 4 and 10 for example. This actually makes the bet one of the best in the entire casino and on the craps table. Most commonly though, casinos are not this generous, but you can still find them! That's why it pays to learn knowledge of the game and the odds to spot those 'gem bets' at various casinos and craps tables. Players may also wager 'single roll' bets on these hard way numbers using a betting technique known as 'on the hop' to get 30:1 payouts.


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Why do I go through the hassles of taking on the casinos? It’s not for entertainment – though often it is entertaining. It’s not so I can tip the dealers and show what a good sport I am. I play to win. It’s not just a goal. It’s the only goal. The rest of it — the comps, the excitement, the roller-coaster thrill — is all secondary. I’m in the casino for one reason. I want their money – and lots of it.

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I look at advantage play in the casino as the best possible part-time job for me. But as in any profession, there are certain basic tools you must have to ply your trade. I call these tools the Hard Eight. They’re really quite easy, but players around the world struggle with them every day. Let’s open the tool box and take a brief look at them.

1. Knowledge of the game. One of the silliest questions I hear people ask at the craps table is “How do you play this game?” Standing at the table with your hard-earned cash at risk is not the time to learn. Before placing your first bet you should have mastered all of the basic rules of the game, understand the terminology, have a working knowledge of the correct odds and pay-off, and be comfortable with both the pass and don’t pass sides of the game. To that end, you should read some of the top books on the game – including Scarne on Dice, Sam Grafstein’s The Dice Doctor, and John Patrick’s Advanced Craps. Explore the game on the internet through forums like this and through “play for fun” sites and downloads such as WinCraps. Once you feel you have a good command of the game – head to the casino the try it out. But be sure you have a good command of the other seven tools of the trade.

2. Conservative Strategy. A friend of mine loves to play marathon craps session, but long sessions in a negative expectation game will eventually grind you down. The only way to survive these sessions over the long haul is to adopt an extremely conservative betting philosophy. In this gentleman’s case, that consists of a single Don’t Pass bet on each shooter. If he wins a bet his next wager is a single Don’t Pass bet with single odds. On any loss he reverts to his original single unit bet. And while he will never win a huge amount of money, he will rarely lose a large amount either. He is patient and plays his strategy flawlessly, and it achieves exactly what he wants.

You must approach the table with the same type of logically conceived, conservative game plan. That doesn’t mean you have to limit yourself to the pass line or don’t pass – or limit yourself to a single bet. It simply means you step up to the table with a plan. A strategy that allows you to adjust the size of your bets based on your bankroll, minimize your losses, and maximize your wins. How? By positioning yourself to take advantage of the gambler’s friend – the almighty streak.

3. Sufficient Bankroll. I like to think of my casino chips as bullets. On the battlefield, if you run out of bullets you’re as good as dead. That’s why it is important to build a sufficient bankroll before stepping into the casino. You will always have limited funds to play with when your bankroll is compared to the casinos. The Pit Boss can roll out the reserves anytime by calling the cage and having the security boys bring out a chip refill.

There are lots of ways you can use your “bullets” against the casino. You can use them like artillery, playing those long shot bets, or a machine gunner raining chips all over the table. Or, if you’re smart, you’ll launch a sniper attack, making every shot count. But to stand any chance at all in these bankroll battles, you must have enough capital to start.

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4. Money Management. I can only guess at how many times a player standing next to me at the table has pointed to a stack of chips on the layout and asked, “Is that my money?” I’ve heard it hundreds of times through the years. But money management is more than watching your bets. As I mentioned before, you have to adjust the size of your bets in relation to the size of your bankroll. Money management goes beyond that, as well. It requires you to set specific win objectives and loss limits based on your total bankroll. It means knowing exactly how much you will bet in every conceivable win/loss situation you encounter. And it means having the self-discipline to execute those bets flawlessly.

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5. Self Discipline. Most gamblers don’t have it. Simply put, self-discipline is how you control your emotions while gambling. A few months back I bought in at a table and — by using good money management and discipline — doubled my money in about forty-five minutes. At the same time, the player next to me lost a little over $14,000. The more he lost the more he relied on crazy, scared-money wagers – $100 hop bets on two or three numbers every roll, and placing the hardways for $500 each. He was pitting his bankroll bullets against the casino’s. The house had him out-manned and out-gunned. Everyone at the table could see he was destined to lose it all — everyone except him. As the old saying goes, you gotta know when to walk away — and know when to run.

6. Trends and Streaks. Craps is a game of streaks. Streaks of Point – Seven Out. Streaks of Point – Pass. And, most often, choppy streaks where there is no dominant trend. Since craps is a game of independent trials — what happened on the last roll of the dice has no influence on what happens this roll of the dice. Predicting a trend is impossible. However, every forty-five minute monster hand starts out with a dozen tosses of the dice. It moves on to the five-minute mark, then ten, fifteen, and twenty. At some point virtually every player at the table recognizes what is happening and the layout fills up with chips. They have spotted the almighty streak. You can spot it too.

7. Precision Shooting. Have you ever noticed that some shooters at the craps table seem to have consistently longer hands than other players? While random trends and streaks do occur in this game, some players prefer to create their own. They do this, consciously or subconsciously, by influencing the outcome of the roll. Generally they take great care in pre-setting the dice to a particular arrangement. Then they affect a consistent, soft toss to a particular point on the table. Casino personnel often crank up the heat on these individuals in an attempt to break their rhythm. Often, though, these shooters appear unflappable as they throw the dice with zen-like precision, banging out number after number after number. Casinos fear them – and for good reason. The best of them have the ability to significantly alter the odds of the game in their favor – all within the confines of the house rules. Can you master this technique? Absolutely.

8. Winning Attitude. Let’s face it. The only one who likes a loser is the casino. And yet you hear people reinforcing a losing attitude at every turn. The science of neuro-linguist-programming – NLP for short – teaches that you can actually program your mind for success through positive affirmations. Yet so often we program ourselves for failure instead.

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On a recent Vegas outing I walked into the casino and turned a quick $360 profit at the craps table. Recognizing that the streak at that table was over, I colored up and strolled over to the Wheel-of-Fortune carousel to see if my companion was ready to go to dinner. “Just a minute,” she said, shaking her coin cup. “I just want to lose these last few dollars, then we can go.”

Think about that. How many times have you stood in the casino and heard someone say something similar? They don’t expect to win – so they don’t. They just stand there until they throw their last chip in.

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Well, there you have them – the Hard Eight. Are they really that hard? Not really. Can you master them and become a consistent winner? I believe you can.